Saturday, March 31, 2012
No this is not another batrep... Heh.
Let's take two units from two totally different codices and compare the them. One unit is selected from the Tyranid codex which is often said to be the worst codex released during fifth edition (there is some contention for Dark Angels though for sure). The other unit is selected from the Grey Knight codex which is often said to be the most broken over the top codex ever released. How can we compare the two?
The devilgant is a termagant armed with a devourer which basically doubles the cost of the model - why would anyone ever do that? The devourer is a S4 three shot 18" ranged assault weapon. A large brood of devilgants can generate a large number of shots and has decent range (24" = 18" range + 6" move). I like to run my brood in a mycetic spore so I can isolate small squads and shoot them. The spore makes it relatively easy to target an exposed unit which I'll discuss in more detail below. To me and the way I play my army (no Tervigons) the devourer is the better choice compared to the stock fleshborer.
Purifiers have access to all of the best options from their codex for very cheap. Let's also assume for the sake of this discussion that the Grey Knight army has Crowe (which is often the case) so the Purifiers are a scoring unit (i.e., troop) as well.
Here are the two configurations I have chosen for each unit based upon experience:
15x termagant - devourers & mycetic spore
5x Purifier incl. Keeper of the Flame - 2x psycannon, halberd & daemonhammer (KotF) & rhino
There are certainly a myriad of other options - especially for the Purifiers - I chose these since the points for each are similar in cost, this is a standard build I often see for Purifiers and this how I run my devilgants. The familiarity makes it easier for me to compare them.
Both units cost are in the same neighborhood for the points, both are troops and both have a form of transportation. That's about at close as they get for the purpose of comparison without scratching the surface. The Purifiers are both a jack of all trades and also are a master in all ways - they can shoot down anything and excel in melee for a moderate cost. On the other hand the termagants are only good at shooting infantry units in an offensive mode. While the mycetic spore lets you place the devilgants where you need them the most (barring an awful scatter) it is also an easy killpoint. The five man squad of Purifiers is the quensential unit from the viewpoint of min maxing for 5th edition. If the two units were to face off versus each other in melee it's quite clear the Purifiers would quickly come out on top while suffering minimal losses.
If we take a couple of steps back and compare each unit as a part of its army then we can draw more relevant conclusions and to me these are more important when it comes to analyzing competitive play. If we just compare them in a vacuum then we are obviously missing out on the bigger picture... For instance while Purifiers are inherently fearless the same can be said about the devilgants if they are within range of synaspe. Fifteen fearless devilgants in cover can be hard to shift unless you are willing to engage them in assault then your assault unit might quickly fold versus a counter attacking enemy dedicated melee unit such as genestealers. To engage the devilgants in melee means that you are willing to expose a unit to following counter attacks. Depending upon the circumstances I'd be more than willing to trade a big brood of devilgants to bait an enemy unit... It's just like chess when you sacrifice one piece to gain a strategic advantage.
Another piece of the larger equation which accounts for more variables is how much time and effort does your opponent require to eliminate the brood - the longer it takes the more effort they must expend. Fifteen devilgants in cover that are fearless and have gone to ground can stick around a long time and they can hold an objective all the while. If they are strategically placed on the table you can force your opponent to make tough decisions - the harder the decision the more likely your opponent is to make a mistake. Capitalizing on your opponent's mistakes can lead to victory. Of course we should consider that the opponent might have some templates (e.g., flamers) nearby so either we need to keep the termagants spread wide apart or following along with the philosophy that discretion is the better part of valor it might be the wiser decision to place the termagants a safe distance away. You have to weigh the potential risk versus the loss and then decide what you think is the best course of action. There is little if any value throwing away a unit with no gain.
Time is a big factor and more so as the game continues to progress. The longer your unit can survive equates to more effort on the part of your opponent to eliminate that threat. Every turn the devilgants continue to stick around can be more ticks of the clock in your favor. I've won my share of games because one or two devilgants made it to the end of a game and held an objective.
So devilgants have the ability to perform multiple roles—obviously the same can be said about Purifiers and even more so. Tyranids are meant to be played as a synergistic army—most units rely upon some sort of support from another unit to accomplish any given task. It is this aspect more than anything else that can make Tyranids perform at a competitive level. This is the reason why I feel confident versus Grey Knights, Imperial Guard and Space Wolves... Not because I'm playing someone who doesn't really know what they're doing.
Each squad of Purifiers is comparatively an army of one - they don't need the level of support required for a brood of devilgants and from a strategic point of view that is one of the big reasons why they can and do often win games. In my opinion neither is better... One is better than the other in the hands of those that play them correctly depending upon the prevailing circumstances.
Now finally let's revisit the topic of the devilgants versus the Purifiers. Let's assume that the Purifiers have disembarked for whatever reason and for the sake of this discussion let's also assume the Purifiers disembarked for a valid reason (OH GAWD PLZ NOES !!!). If the devilgants arrive the following turn they can land in close enough proximity to the Purifiers and shoot them with their mighty devourers:
45 S4 shots @ BS3: 22 hit & 11 wound:
The five man squad of Purifiers should roughly suffer 4 unsaved wounds and they'll most likely lose one or both psycannons and the Keeper of the Flame. So while the devilgants have not wiped the Purifiers they have rendered them fairly useless and under many situations it wouldn't be all that hard to pick off the lone Purifier now. The trick of course is to create a set of circumstances that lures your opponent into disembarking the small squad of Purifiers—of course you could just use brute force and crack open the rhino via shooting (e.g., Hive Guard).
In conclusion the devilgants are good at picking off small isolated MEQ units. They can be highly survivable if placed in cover as well and hold objectives. On the other hand the Purifiers can be more fragile due to their small size. So while hands down the Purifiers are the overall better unit that doesn't necessarily mean that the devilgants aren't worth their points as well. Overall you should look at how each unit integrates with its parent army to best utilize them.
Sunday, March 4, 2012
Hi all !!
I was over in Tampa yesterday to play in the team tourney - 1500 points per player so 3000 points per team. My partner (John Lennon) and I were planning to run two Tyranid armies but found out upon arrival that teams couldn't use use the same codex... Luckily I had my Grey Knights in the car so I quickly put together a Draigowing army featuring three Venerable psyflemen dreadnaughts. John's army featured a Flyrant with Ancient Adversary, two Tervigons, two full broods of Hive Guard, gargoyles and lots of gaunts. I had planned to run a Tyranid army with three broods of Yrmgarls and large genestealer broods with Broodlords... Oh well it was not to be.
The reason why you couldn't play two armies from the same codex is that at their last team tournament two brothers showed up with Bugz and were fielding the Doom in both lists which turned out to be quite the terror. I also heard that in general people didn't like certain combos teams were using for dual codex armies.
It turned out that the Draigowing-Tyranid alliance was quite powerful though so all was not lost. The three Venerable brother dreadnaughts were a true terror to behold gunning down lots of armor and infantry over the course of the three games.
Friday, March 2, 2012
A player’s recap
Well the BFSR has come and gone and I am left wondering what happened. The tournament was great. Anything run by Jason Dowdell is the standard to which all other tournaments should be held. I could go on and on about how good the tournament was. But that is not the purpose of this article. No, this one is going to deal with my play in this great event and some things I need to improve on.
My opponents lists were Grey Knights, Imperial Guard, Dark Eldar and Necrons. A good mix for my Wolves. Now I did an article a couple of weeks ago on my preparation for the tournament and the decision to go with my Space Wolves as opposed to my Grey Knights. This proved to be a mixed bag as my Wolves faced two match-ups in the Guard and Dark Eldar that they simply could do nothing against. The Guard army smashed me from go and I could not move for the whole game. Simply too much shooting for me to contend with. The Dark Eldar did the same thing; too much shooting for me to resist and still have a viable army to fight with. In both of these games the GK’s would have had a little more resilience that my Wolves did not.
My list in a nutshell was this:
Wolf Lord: T.Wolf, WTN, RA, FB/SS, Saga of Bear.
x3 Wolf Guard one of which was Arjac
x8 Grey Hunters in a Drop Pod
x8 Grey Hunters
x5 Grey Hunters in a Razorback with Las/Plas
x5 Long Fangs with ML’s
x4 Thunder Wolves
That list without all the wargear. I ain’t going in to all that. Now how I play it is this. Arjacs joins the unit in Drop Pod. I advance the T. Wolves up in a line where I will deploy the Pod. Hopefully making opponent choose between the two units on shooting. They provide much HTH punch into my opponents lines. I then use the Raider, Razorback and Long Fangs to hit priority targets until the T. Wolves make it into contact. This works well most of the time (until my cursed dice end all hope but that is another article). It is a small compact force. Now some personal notes. I refuse to spam. I hate the multi Razorback, x3 Longs Fangs, multi Rune Priest lists. They are not Space Wolves at all and are useless in my opinion.
So here are some thoughts. Some things that I will need to address for the future. In both of the aforementioned games I got shot off the board. None of the HTH I brought to the game ever had a chance of taking care of business as it was intended. I am sure my deployment could have been better but still this build could not stand up to sustained fire. Now one could say…two bad match-ups don’t ruin a list. This is true but I think I can make this one better and still have some success against these ultra shooty armies without becoming a Spam God. Losing Arjac and tweaking some things might let me add some more targets… I mean units that can get into the face of some of these armies. I love to mix it up. I just got to come up with some ways of making that happen quicker.
My record was 2-2-0. I was exactly 30th out of 67 players. My soft scores were tremendous and that is what helped me move to the middle of the pack. My issue is that if I had pulled some points from the middle games then I could easily have pulled a top 15 finish for the day. All in all, I had fun but I am disappointed in my performance. I know I could have done better. My list needs work no doubt about it. I am now onto Adepticon preparation. The 40k Championships and the Combat Patrol are beckoning.
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